Episode 137: Ayahuasca, Ancestral Wisdom, and Finding Your True Self with Mimi Chau
In this episode of F*ck Saving Face, Mimi Chau, a consciousness exploration mentor, shares her journey from being an immigrant in America to becoming a successful entrepreneur and holistic healer.
Judy Tsuei and Mimi delve into the importance of play, curiosity, and self-compassion in the healing process, as well as the role of plant medicine, particularly ayahuasca, in personal transformation. Mimi emphasizes the significance of ancestral healing and how our experiences shape our consciousness. The discussion highlights the need for openness and exploration in healing, encouraging listeners to embrace their unique journeys.
More about Mimi Chau:
Mimi Chau is a Consciousness Exploration Mentor and founder of The Goddess Playground, empowering high-achieving women leaders to find harmony between ambition and well-being. Through her signature True Self Method™, Mimi guides conscious-curious and post-awakening women to access their intuition while expanding their impact.
Based in Southern California, she serves as the go-to consciousness exploration concierge, creating elevated, culturally-informed wellness experiences for Asian American-led companies and their employees. With a background as a former entrepreneur, Mimi brings a unique blend of business acumen and holistic practices to her transformative work with individuals and organizations.
Sound Bites
"Life is a game, create your own rules."
"We are the most modern endpoint of our lineage."
"We need to create a better world for our children."
"Each of us has our individual journeys towards enlightenment."
"Consciousness is awareness, illuminating what you couldn't see."
"Let's just try it, it's not about ayahuasca."
"There are no rules when you're playing with me."
"Curiosity is the key to unlocking our true selves."
Takeaways
Mimi is a consciousness exploration mentor and founder of the Goddess Playground.
She empowers women to find harmony between ambition and wellbeing.
Life is a game, and we can create our own rules.
Healing is possible on multiple levels: physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual.
Ayahuasca is a powerful tool for deep healing and self-discovery.
Ancestral healing is crucial for understanding our current experiences.
Consciousness can be defined as awareness and understanding of our interconnectedness.
Curiosity and play are essential for personal growth and healing.
Integration of experiences is key to lasting change.
The journey of healing benefits not just ourselves but future generations.
Episode Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Consciousness Exploration
03:06 Mimi's Journey: From Immigrant to Entrepreneur
06:08 The Transition from Traditional Success to Holistic Healing
08:48 The Role of Plant Medicine in Healing
12:01 Understanding Ayahuasca and Its Impact
14:51 Ancestral Healing and Its Significance
17:47 Defining Consciousness and Its Exploration
21:14 The Importance of Play and Curiosity in Healing
23:54 Integration and Moving Forward
27:03 Closing Thoughts and Future Directions
Links Mentioned:
Judy Tsuei LinkedIn
Judy Tsuei Instagram
MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies) is a trusted resource for research and education on psychedelic-assisted therapy: MAPS
International Center for Reiki Training: Reiki.org
Mimi’s Website: www.mimichau.com
Mimi's Services: https://www.mimichau.com/wellness-services
Schedule Time w Mimi: https://www.mimichau.com/intuitive-leadership-integration
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Transcript:
Judy Tsuei (00:02.668)
Welcome to the F*ck Saving Face podcast where we're empowering mental and emotional health for Asian Americans and voices of color by breaking through taboo topics. Life may not always be pretty, but it is indeed beautiful. Make your story beautiful today.
Who is Mimi and how can you define her when she doesn't fit into a box? So Mimi is a consciousness exploration mentor and the founder of the Goddess Playground.
Who?
Speaker 2 (00:30.028)
She's empowering high achieving women leaders to find harmony between ambition and wellbeing. And through her signature true self method, guides conscious, curious, and post-awakening women to access their intuition while expanding their impact. She's in Southern California. I'm hoping that we get an opportunity to connect in person. We have mutual connections and she's also been one of our clients where we were able to help her with her personal rebrand, which she fell in love with.
She fell in love with my designer as everybody does. And it was such a wonderful opportunity to be able to help her bring her voice out there in the world. The way that she wants to be seen, the way that people do see her, the way that she's helping to transform wellness and the workplace and how she can have.
business acumen and holistic practices existing together in transformative work for both individuals and organizations. She led a very successful juice company as an entrepreneur. You'll hear about that there. And just even when you see her, you know, she has like unicorn colored hair. And I just hope that you enjoy this conversation. It's going to talk about.
Plant Medicine, it's gonna talk about her background as an Asian American immigrant and so much more. And without further ado, I'm gonna turn it over to Mimi. Okay, so I have Mimi here with me today and it's hard to have words to describe you. You're so colorful and so magical. And I'm so grateful for the opportunity to have been able to meet with you, that you've been a client of our branding and marketing work. And then,
We're in similar communities and we're both Asian American women. And I had the privilege of being able to draw forward Mimi's story so that we could highlight it on her website and all of her other marketing. But before I get into anything else, I'm going to turn it over to you and just share it in your own words about yourself. So tell us about you.
Speaker 1 (02:37.006)
Thank you, Judy, for having me on. super excited and talking about all the things that, you know, like we're going to dive into today. So I would say that I'm a consciousness mentor. And then it goes into like the conversation and the topic of today. And I will go straight into what you mentioned about, you know, like fuck saving faces and you know, like why I'm here. And it's really about, you know, creating success on, on my own terms and.
you know, forget everyone else version of what success it's meant to look like. And so excited to share about my own entrepreneur story, what it means to be a consciousness mentor. And the way I see it is that life's a game and we get to create the game that we want to play. So it's just like living, creating, building, living, having fun on our own terms.
I think that it's so great that you're saying life is a game because I think for so many kids who are raised with traditional Asian parents, play was not encouraged. And yet it's such a vital part of us becoming who we are. And I think that's one of the beautiful things about your work is the wellness retreats you lead, like the photos that I've seen, the videos that you've posted.
you're flowing and you're free and you're having a good time and you're guiding other women and especially a very accomplished women through that. And I think it's so easy to get lost in the idea that, you you have to make money, you have to like achieve these accolades, you have to have these degrees because that's what success is supposed to be. But if you think about it and pull back and look at it from a meta level that this is all a game. And so let's just see what happens when we move a game piece this way and move it that way.
And you have had that traditional success in that you had a juice business before you moved into this. So I would love for you to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:31.502)
Yeah. And I feel like this is why, you know, just everything that you've created with your podcast and what you stand for. Like I'm in such a great place knowing that, you know, my background is that I was born and raised in Asia and have been raised with very traditional values. And then coming over to America at nine years old, you know, that was a culture shock and it was really, really cold. didn't realize how traumatic that was.
And where did you come from?
Vietnam over to San Jose.
Yeah, and so when you came here, when you grew up, like what was it like growing up, you know, as an immigrant?
extremely tough. think it was such a also lifestyle shock of growing up in a three story home in Saigon, where my mom was a stay at home mom. And she has a little shop, you know, it was really normal to live where you live in your home and having a business just like right outside your house. Like that's, you know, that's what Asia was. And it was very free. And I think that, you know, we'll talk about my journey of healing and transformation.
Speaker 1 (05:41.396)
and be an entrepreneur. But I have such beautiful memories of growing up in Vietnam, in Saigon, where you live so free. You walk outside your house and you eat along the shops, you know, in the market. And then you say, hey, my parents will pay you later. And then go to school, you know, where you can just like walk to school, walk to the park, buy a comic book, you know, like at the shop along. It was just such a beautiful childhood.
and then moving to America where San Jose was really cold. I hated it at the cold. And then my parents as an immigrant had to work, right? Both of them. And now we downsize from a three-bedroom home to renting a one-bedroom in someone else's home. That was a shock. So going to school here versus in Vietnam, like it was just so different.
And so, you as you grew up, you are like trying to figure out, I always say that we're trying to figure out that hyphen between Asian and American. And they're so contrasting, like the two cultures are often very different from each other. One emphasizes individualism, the other emphasizes like filial piety and like making sure that you're thinking about the whole group and the whole family and generations. So you then moved and you created your own business. became an entrepreneur. And then what happened?
Okay, real talk that getting my college degree and my parents wanted me to be in business and I still remember asking my mom, how do you feel about me being a psychologist? And she didn't like that. And so to become a entrepreneur and then having my juice bar, my parents were still, you know, questioning what I was doing. And, you know, it was that striving for their approval of
creating this very much materialistic success, yet feeling like there was more. So that goes into the work I do now about fulfillment and now being involved, you know, working with mental health expert is still really along the line of what I truly wanted to do, which is help others and now mind, body and spirit. So it was really coming in full circle.
Speaker 2 (07:57.228)
What was the turning point? Because you had a very successful juice bar business, know, is making six figures, like all of the things. So then how did you go from that, which was already, you know, kind of being at the leading edge of what your parents wanted and expected to now going into a realm that has like no rules in the traditional sense.
Right. So I feel like we're still really at the forefront of holistic healing. But then again, being Asian American, a lot of what I've learned about holistic health was culturally aligned. And so there's an innate wisdom of understanding about holistic health. And so the cold press Jews was a new industry and people were really familiar with juicing. So I even brought a juicer back, you know, home to Vietnam and like taught my cousin how to juice because cold press Jews is still like just
you know, fairly new and especially in the Asian American culture. And so I feel like that have taught me eight years of being in a cold press juice company, having a plant-based cafe, which is a brick and mortar. And then we manufacture the juices ourselves and self-distribute. So I think that really speak in terms of, you know, being very high achieving Asian American, like I can do it all hard work will.
persevere and will just make anything happen. And so that was really the mindset and the hardworking ethic that was innate from my grandma and seeing my parents being immigrant and carried that through. So yeah.
And did you then burn out? And that's what led to...
Speaker 1 (09:42.126)
was gonna get into that, yep, completely. so yeah, I pushed it pretty hard for seven years and doing whatever it takes, hustle and building out different channels of, know, capitalizing on the juice bar and got really burnt out. And then that's when I found all the modalities, all the things that we're gonna talk about that has helped me and now I wanna share it to help others.
Yeah, so tell me about it. Tell me about your healing journey that brought you now into the work that you're guiding other women into. Sure.
So just for context in terms of, know, I think that as a founder that, you know, we seek for personal development. So I was really into Tony Robbins and, know, wanted to develop myself and to apply that to being a founder and entrepreneur. So really got into lifting weights, right? So I joined a CrossFit gym. So my schedule was about...
Waking up 5 a.m., learning how to meditate, super whatever Tony said, I was gonna do it. So really got into the first modality that really has helped me was definitely meditation, game changer. And so love meditating. And then I would go to the CrossFit gym, come home, taking care of my one year old, then get to the shop.
and start going to battles, whatever the employees needed, whatever the shop needed, dealing with all the things. And so I got really burnt out. Then I met another restaurant owner that was a reiki master. And so I found reiki as a self-care tool. And then when I hit rock bottom.
Speaker 1 (11:38.966)
you know, crying about complete burnout. I try all the things. Why is it still so extremely hard to navigate? And I think that being Asian American, I wasn't aware that that was my mental breakdown. And so that had brought me to iOS go, which is what we're going to talk about.
Yeah, so tell me about ayahuasca. Tell me about...
What do you want to know?
I mean, you know, growing up, Asian parents are like, no drugs, no nothing, like don't do anything. And this isn't like we're gonna just go take something to party. This is designed to expand your consciousness and awareness. So for complete beginners, when they go through these experiences, because I know you've participated and been like a consultant in regards to different healing modalities, what people need to know about Aya and like, what is it that you love about Aya?
my gosh. Well, it is so much to unpack. There's so much that comes with that. So I would say that ayahuasca is a psychedelic. People usually ask how long is the journey? They ask, am I going to see things like, cause there's a wide range of psychedelics and because also I'll tie into, we caught plant medicine.
Speaker 1 (13:00.686)
And I've always been very intuitive without knowing that I was so empathetic and also very intuitive. And so that ties into being in the cold press juice company that I was working with plants a lot. And that was cold press juice was one way of healing. And so I'll tie in the two. And so what I did was that I was putting people on a three day juice cleanse or a 10 day juice cleanse. So I can be a self-proclaim.
to say that I'm a juice expert so you can ask me about all the things and I can dive into like fasting, how it helps your body, you know? And so it really gave me the foundational understanding that ties into plant medicine work.
And what's different about plant medicine that, you know, is different than therapy. It's different than other healing modalities. What is it about it that's different?
Hmm. Well, specifically we're talking about ayahuasca is that with therapy and other modality, you can still have so much resistance that say if you have a thought loop, a thinking loop, you can have the same conversation with your therapist over and over that could prolong your process of having a certain sense of awareness that will take much longer than to have a plant medicine journey such as ayahuasca.
And there are so many different plants, like there's the cactus, there is psilocybin, which is mushroom. And I can say that what is the difference going back to like, is it drugs? Right? Because, you know, when you're younger, you might have an experience with mushroom, like I have. And it was scary. Where your hands are turned to Mickey Mouse hands, right? And you're like, what's happening here? Do not have a good experience. I'm highly sensitive.
Speaker 1 (14:51.246)
to all the things, so even marijuana is extremely hard for me to use, just because it's very grounding and it just pulls you in and that's really not, going back to the way you described me, thank you, being magical and very high in the sense of my energy. so marijuana, it's not the type of energy that I like to sit with. I would try to describe that.
And so ayahuasca is known to be the grandmother plant medicine. And so I would say that she has a spirit. And so a lot of time when people experience a journey with her and receive her medicine and her teaching, then yeah, we, after you experience it, we'll come back and we, call her grandmother.
And what are some of the things that you've experienced or you've witnessed other people experiencing with Aya?
One of the most profound connection for me is connecting with that maternal divine feminine energy within myself. So I've had some really profound deep healing with the trauma that came to me in a very loving, nurturing way. Because I think one of them, like that thing that holds people back from
receiving healing with plant medicine and Pacific light ayahuasca is people are scared. Do I have to relive that trauma? And for me, I didn't have to relive that really deep trauma. And, you know, I won't share it publicly because I already had an opportunity. So after that healing with ayahuasca and healing that deep rooted trauma, my voice was gone for three days. And after that,
Speaker 1 (16:43.85)
I felt called to go on my social media and I shared what I needed to share. And from that experience, I received so much compassion from, you know, friends and family that I grew up with that didn't really understand that was my journey. And so for the first time, I really, one of the biggest lesson that I've learned from that journey and from that healing journey, and we call it integration.
And so that's why I'm the integration coach is that it's not really about the plan medicine journey and the ceremony. It's yes, you have an awareness and, and it, you know, the experience bring to the forefront of what it is that you are healing from, but the integration comes with what I just shared about sharing about my experience. And so I got to receive self-compassion.
and then understanding what it feels to receive compassion in return. And that was like extremely healing. Does that help?
Yeah. And I would imagine, I mean, like for so many of us who are overachievers, being self compassionate is not at the top of the list. Receiving compassion. One of the things that my therapist would always say is like, you have everything that you want around you. You just haven't fully let it in yet. And I think that these consciousness practices help us to have a different perspective of the existing situation. Or a lot of the work that I do in NLP when we do like timeline therapy is to just understand that
yes, the incident happened, whatever was the trauma, whatever was the earliest incident of a certain emotion, and that we only saw like this sliver of the story and that there were so many other elements around it and so much wisdom and even like just different elements of beneficial learnings that we gained from it, but we couldn't see it because this was the only thing that we could see.
Speaker 2 (18:40.908)
So as we move through the timeline, we start to realize like, there's not just that incidence, but so many other incidents where there were beneficial lessons that we learned along the way. And we had ownership over the decision that was made. Life happens, I think like that was the key takeaway when I did DMT was like life happens. It's our perception and judgment of whether it's good or bad.
that causes the pleasure of the pain because life, life's, then we have feelings about it. And so I'm curious for you, how do you define consciousness? Because I think there are so many stories wrapped around that as well. How do you define it when you work with clients?
if we can pin this for a second, because something was coming up for me as you were, you were talking about this. think that, you know, well, I thought that my experience was my own. And so I sat with it and I process with it. But the more that I've sat with plant medicine, I've realized that a lot of my healing is ancestral. And so the, the biggest part of my, healing journey and, I really help want to help others with.
is that ancestral connection and so it was a full circle moment of feeling shame and guilt and suffering from my own journey of being an immigrant and being Asian American and then walking away from that and then having my juice bar in predominantly white Newport Beach, I mean it's
And the church I went to being Buddhist, becoming Catholic, then sitting, you know, at Plant Medicine, learning, you know, in the indigenous culture, and then coming back home to all the part that is innately me. And so there was a very profound, beautiful journey that unlocked my ancient Chinese lineage. And it was just so beautiful and profound. And so it really speaks to everything that, you know, I create and do now.
Speaker 2 (20:45.368)
love that you're saying that too, because I think now science is demonstrating epigenetics and how we are the most modern endpoint of all of the lineage that came before us and how we do, if there was trauma that was experienced in previous generations, that it's still passed along. It's not just an in our minds kind of thing, but even from a cellular level, it's passed along. The work that you're doing and the work that I do when I coach clients is also that
intergenerational healing, we go back intergenerational on the timeline, we go back, you know, ancestrally, and I we always say, your conscious mind doesn't need to know like, what all it doesn't it's, it's only like, again, a small sliver. So trust your unconscious mind trust that like, it knows where to go, it knows where it came from, it knows what to do, it might not make sense to you. But the relief that I see people experience when they trust their unconscious mind when they're willing to do that intergenerational
healing and that, you know, going back on the timeline and lineage, it's so profound and it's super freeing. And I think other people have said, like, if you looked at a timeline and you really pulled back and looked from like a really top level, you would see that there's so much left to create or so much that came before you and we're human. we get really stuck like right here, right now. And so I love what you're saying.
There's just so much to unpack from here. One of the things that I've learned from my plant medicine studies is that when you heal, you heal seven generation forward and seven generation backwards. And I can, because I've done so much work in all the ways, therapy, other holistic modalities that, you know, it's not related to plant medicine. And I have done plant medicine plenty of times to sort of connect the dots.
And so I can tell you the one really profound healing, a theme that I've unpacked from the generation of my grandma. And I wonder about my great grandma who has came to me in the ayahuasca retreat, my great grandmother, and speaks into my own healing journey and the work that I will bring forth for legacy. so the pattern was that because of survival, that, you
Speaker 1 (23:05.556)
my lineage came from China to Cambodia and my grandma had to travel to Vietnam on a boat looking for food. And so because of the survival, right, that our lineage, maternal lineage had to disconnect from her body to do whatever it takes to survive. And then also have learned that my grandma had give birth to eight kids.
my aunt, my uncle, and then she had a ton of other kids that had passed away. They didn't make it. And so understanding the disconnection from our bodies, right? Like willing to do whatever it takes to survive. And then having to learn how intuitive I am. And I know that my mom is so intuitive and she does not like to talk about it.
Yes, for sure. I think that's the same in my family. Like we never talk about it, but we're so intuitive. Like the random amount of serendipity and synchronicities. It's like, no, like for sure.
We don't want to talk about it, but we'll like, you know, hey, your grandma visited dream. She was whatever for your wedding, but like, hey, we're not okay.
And I love that you're talking about not just healing the past, but forward. I think for us as moms, and for so many of us, like we wanna do right and we wanna do better. We want to create a better world. And so I love the idea that the work that we're doing isn't just healing past intergenerational trauma, but like healing forward too, that we're creating the better opportunities or responses for our children. And then if they continue that work, then they continue to move that forward. And that's so beautiful to think about.
Speaker 2 (24:46.722)
Yeah.
And I would say my biggest integrations, everything that I've learned being on the retreats and learning from high performance coaches and the top mental health expert is really coming back to bring that to Brayden, my son.
I love it. Yeah, exactly. And so going back to the consciousness question, I think, because it's such a big question and it's difficult for people to wrap their minds around and understand how would you define consciousness? Well, especially for women, especially for the women who you work with, the leaders, the, you know, women who are coming from marginalized communities or like different communities of color, like how would you explain that?
Hopefully it helps him with his journey.
Speaker 1 (25:32.046)
I love that. I would love to dive into this with you, but you know what? I'm actually just really innately curious and that's where the God of Playgrounds of Playgrounds. So I know that like you have been on this journey for quite a bit, meditation and everything that you've learned and the book that you've written. So I'm curious about your definition of your thoughts. And then I'll let you know where I am for sure.
mean, one of the things that I've always loved when I became a yoga teacher was learning that however many people there are, that's how many paths to enlightenment there are. And I think for a lot of us, we think, well, like this guru or that expert says it looks like this, then that's how it should look. And so we're constantly trying to mold ourselves to fit something else that someone's told us. And I think all of that information, like, if it resonates with you, I used to always say, like, if it works for you, great, like try it on.
see if it fits, if it doesn't work for you, just let it on go. But what I think is like each of us have our individual journeys towards whatever we're meant to cultivate and create. And then we are all part of this shared fabric, this big tapestry. And so we, as we evolve, we're evolving the greater consciousness of the whole and what the whole universe is learning about itself and learning about consciousness because we keep adding to it. And so I think like, you know, I feel like
I failed astronomy, but in college, astronomy, it was like spaces ever expanding. It's ever, you growing. So that's how I view it. And yeah, so I would love to hear.
I love that. I love that. That is so good. And Judy, if you have, you know, been along my side, say like, just let's just visualize that we're on a rocket ship and there's like two seats. So if you were in the seat besides me, as I expand, as I journey in the vastness of my consciousness and my universe, like what a journey, you know, and there's just so much and
Speaker 1 (27:32.896)
And yes, like we can dive into that state of consciousness and meditation, into the vastness of who we are and the universe that we are. So love everything you're saying because I innately feel like I've experienced that.
Mm, I love that. I mean, there's so much that we could dive into and I want everybody to go see Mimi's site because it's so fun.
beautiful. Thank you Judy and your team.
So I always close every interview with if you could say fuck saving face about something and what would you say fuck saving face about? What would you wish that everybody like would just stop giving a shit about or just like rewrite? Somehow what would you say?
Yeah, and I say that if I can have a little bit more time just talking about the consciousness because I find it is really profound when we have an opportunity to talk about what spirituality is and what consciousness is. So I really love your example. when I definitely do want to share mine that when you say enlightenment, that really resonate with me because I really feel like
Speaker 1 (28:42.486)
A simple way to think about consciousness, it's awareness. And so with enlightenment, the way that I have an understanding of everything I've learned on this journey, it's really shedding light, illuminating what you couldn't really see and understand before. I think it's an understanding of our own journey and how it connects to the vastness of the interconnected.
that we are and when you're speaking, just think it's just all energies. That's the language that I, you know, innately speak, energy. So I...
Love that. And I know other people who've worked with you too just have also described you as like a unicorn and like a...
ETHEREAL! YEAH!
Yeah. And I just cannot wait because, you know, as the book comes out and stuff, we've already talked about how I want to bring you in to do like town healing and like, you know, just all of your essence because I do, like you said, like you had the juice bar in Newport Beach and this predominantly white community. And I think that there are so many things that are normalized for the dominant majority that aren't normalized for our communities. And yet,
Speaker 2 (29:58.446)
We're curious about it. We want to know about it. We want to learn about it. We want it to be accessible. And if you're not the kind of person who's willing to walk into a room where you're the only, then it makes it a lot harder to like access that. So I love that you're bringing that with all of your lineage and with all of the powerful women who've been in your lineage and then bringing that, like the gifts that you've had that the other women prior to you have had and then bringing it all together. I think that that's so beautiful. And yeah, just.
way that you describe it, think I'm just so happy that you're doing this work because I think it makes it so much more accessible for other people who maybe just haven't been able to like have it as a touch point because they didn't see someone who looked like them reflected back to them or they didn't hear a story that sounded like theirs reflected back to them.
Judy, I love everything that you're saying and I know that, you know, we've done enough studies to really be able to speak on that. And so I think one of the things that stands out the most to me for the type of work that we're doing is really helping people and especially us Asian Americans to be more open, having a more open mind, open heart so that we can try a new thing.
that's really pushing us out of our comfort zone. And so like, let's just try it. It's really not about the ayahuasca, because there's so many different modalities that you can try. And so I think that's where, you know, we want, I want to do a thing and like just bringing all of this to the Asian American community who has so much like,
I mean, change is hard for everyone just regarding what our necessities and our upbringing changes hard. When it comes to our health, very hard. Comes to our mindset, extremely hard. And so all these different modalities is bringing a inner experience where people can really experience and understand like how it works for them. And so there's really, I think going back to fuck saving faces, like
Speaker 1 (32:14.604)
There's no one way, one right answer. There's no rules. Like when I work with my clients, when we come there together and especially like, hey, being Asian American, we want to get, you know, straight A's and you know, we want to...
you know, do everything like I did Reiki and I became a Reiki master. And then I'm like, no, I don't want to be a Reiki practitioner. You know, like it's so funny, it's like, come play with me. Let's dive together. And like whatever that I create that I think where we innately have in common, the way we see consciousness is the vastness of non-limitation. There's no limit.
Go where you want to go. Try what you want to try. Like, fuck it. You know, like no rules. When you're playing with me, there's no rules. Like, here's what I've learned. These are the tools. These are all the things. Pick what you like. Try it out. You don't like that? Try something else and you're going to find the thing that is for you. And so when you work with me, I bring you the things that have worked for me and I wholeheartedly believe in it.
because I've healed and healed and healed again. so healing it's possible, whether it's physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. Like I've seen, witnessed so many miracles from these modalities, right? Where from ayahuasca. And so I have a friend who, shout out to Tuck, love him. He's a scientist and he's healed from cancer. And he's just the best person who can speak on.
that element of mindfulness but also scientifically and from his own journey and so I just keep telling him to write a book you know and so it's just not just my journey but I love having collaborations and other people who can speak on this topic like way more you know like in depth than me but I can share my personal experience and how it helps.
Speaker 2 (34:21.485)
And the thing that I think that you're underscoring is like the ability to play kind of circling back to what we said at the very beginning and that consciousness doesn't have to be this arduous journey of like healing and like slogging through all of the shit and like whatever but that it be boundary lists and like how often do you in your life have that opportunity to be in a space where there are no rules?
where you can bring in this and that and the other thing, where you can try things on and see if it works or if it doesn't work. I mean, I think that there's so few opportunities, especially for us as adults, especially if you have multiple responsibilities, being a business owner, being a parent, like whatever, a partner, all of these things. There's just so few opportunities I think we give ourselves to just explore for the sake of exploring and just to see.
what could unfold and what could happen. And I think that's one of the reasons that I love watching my daughter is I just love watching her to see where her curiosity goes and to see what piques her interest. And then she'll let herself follow that interest. And that's wonderful to me. She actually just made a board game just out of the blue from an Amazon box and she made her own dice and like, you know, like the little parts and whatever. And it's such a fun game, like the cards and the prompts that she made.
I could not be more delighted because all I see is like fun and joy, the joy of creating, the joy of allowing herself like she was just inspired to do this. So she wanted to do this. And I wish that we had more of that in our lives. And I think the work you're doing invites that. It invites that like adult curiosity.
love what you said because whenever you know I'm seven years in with Bray and as I watch him you know as a human you ball I'm like that's where we started and that is like what is innately us and so even as adult we're going back to that we're going back to the curiosity we're going back to the play and what you have said really bringing back to like who are we outside of our identities and roles as
Speaker 1 (36:32.046)
parents as a founder, as an entrepreneur. And so they're transitioning for me to close out my business as an entrepreneur that I've worked so hard for eight years to build. And like, who am I after that? And so it really goes back into our innate who we are as a person, right? Who are we outside of the job and the titles? Who are we? When I went to the retreat, we didn't talk about what we do. No one was talking about what we do.
for a full week and we're like, what, that's what you do? Or like, you know, but now I bring that back to being like, you know, interacting with people. like, especially the Asian, not Asian, but American culture. The first thing we do when we meet someone is, hey, what's your name? What do you do?
Totally. Yeah. So if people want to follow up with you and learn more about what it is that you're doing, where can they go?
to my website, Mimi Chow, and shout out to your team. Thank you for making it so amazing. I feel like it's a home away from home that I can live in my website and invite everybody to come hang out there.
a great representation of you and I love like the little details too of like the little like surprise easter egg things that you can find on the site and it's like so
Speaker 1 (37:49.518)
I would love Brett, who's on your team to like hear this because I was just on a drive coming home from visiting the Wolf Sanctuary and I look over it was the sunset and there was this beautiful mountain and I was actually with my client when we went and I was like, my gosh, look, the mountain looked like the mountain that's on my website. It was such a moment, Judy. I was like.
Yeah
Speaker 2 (38:18.613)
I will let him know.
Speaker 2 (38:24.207)
Well, thank you so much for joining me today and I cannot wait to see what else comes.
thank you for having me.
I hope that you enjoyed that, that it put a big smile on your face, that you realized that there are so many ways to access consciousness and to connect to your intuition. One of the things that we do in neuro-linguistic programming, which is also known as a pattern interrupt. So if you found some patterns in your life that are not working for you and you want to adopt a new strategy, NLP is wonderful for that. And being in Haka Lo, which is the Hawaiian term for being in that way that you can access your unconscious mind.
all of your intuition. It's a very simple practice and I've taken all of my clients through it. And I hope that for you, there's this understanding that creating and accessing and diving deeper into consciousness work doesn't have to be laborious. It doesn't have to be a struggle. It can be as enjoyable and filled with light and dark. can hold both.
So if that's something that you're curious about and you want to do a breakthrough session or you want to learn more about it, go to judytsui.com and or send me a message. Hello at judytsui.com. I look forward to seeing you in the next episode.
Speaker 2 (39:36.77)
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Keywords: consciousness, healing, plant medicine, ayahuasca, Asian American, mental health, wellness, entrepreneurship, ancestral healing, self-compassion
